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Poster: php111 Date: Jul 14, 2013 3:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

Hey, would there be any particular order where one would listen to the Dead discography? Would someone advise or would someone not advise to listen to complete shows in order? Also, would someone advise or not advise to listen to the following in complete order which would be Dick's Picks 1-36, then Road Trips all of them which replaced DP, and all Dave's Picks which replaced Road Trips? Thank you!

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Jul 15, 2013 8:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

follow your nose.

I say pick releases from different years and see what catches your ear (or nose). Then based upon what you liked, look for other releases from that time period.

Theres nothing to get from listening to them based upon the order that they were released.

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Poster: capsgd Date: Jul 15, 2013 5:04pm
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there is a box set of CDs Warner/Rhino it has 66' to 72'
-this is major GD stuff
also get -Blues for Allah, Terrapin Station,
...Garcia 1st solo (with Birdsong, Deal,Loser,Wheel.)
..then the Rhino CD collections of live shows-69'to 77'
such as 'Rockin the Rhine'anything from Euro 72-

can't go wrong on the first 12 Dicks picks
I'd stick to the DPs
- by yr.s; 72'-through- 82'

-and here at the archive -try the 'soundboards' go to the yrs 72'-82' and for a start you might want to click on #of downloads to get an idea of popularity among dead heads-those are suppose to be listening only..

if you want to download some free live audios
at the archive -here are some of my favorite-
that have quality playing
and quality recording.

1976-10-01.... Market Sq. Arena (unkn.) <24b
1977-02-27.... UC Santa Barbara
1977-05-08.... Cornell Univ. (shure stev.)
1978-05-06.... Patrick Gym, U.V. (set2 aud unknown)
1978-12-19.... Mem. Col., Miss. St. ( wag. bert.)
1979-02-03.... Market Square Arena (nak clugsman)
1979-08-14.... McNichols Arena (senn.eaton m)
1980-05-06.... Rec, Hall, Penn State (senn421eaton)
1980-06-05.... Compton Terrace Amp. (morris) <24b
1980-09-06.... Maine State Fairg. (friend) <24b
1981-09-12.... Greek Theater (nak/anon.)

-this isn't 'complete'
but if you listen to the above
you'll be well on your way.
its where I like to hang out-

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Poster: php111 Date: Jul 15, 2013 6:20pm
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Thank you so much!

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Poster: tigerwolf43 Date: Jul 17, 2013 1:25pm
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If you are just getting into the Dead I would start with certain official vault releases from different eras, see what you like and then you can dig deeper around those periods (either with other official releases or on the Archive). I would start with the following, which I think best combine good sound quality, good show quality, tight playing and overall accessibility to the average listener:

1969 - Fillmore West 1969
1970 - Dick’s Picks Vol. 4
1971 - Ladies and Gentlemen . . the Grateful Dead
1972 - Steppin’ Out w. the Grateful Dead
1974 – The Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack
1975 - One from the Vault
1977 - Dick’s Picks Vol 3, 15 or 34
1978 - The Closing of Winterland or Dick’s Picks Vol. 18
1979 - Dick’s Picks Vol. 5
1981 – Dick’s Picks Vol. 13
1989-90 - Without a Net, Nightfall of Diamonds, Dozin’ at the Knick or Spring 1990 - So Glad You Made It

Only a few of these are whole shows; the rest are compilations. I personally prefer complete shows, but if you are just getting your feet wet there is no reason to limit yourself to them.

I would add that you pretty much can’t go wrong with any release from the 1972 Europe tour (other than the “Europe ’72” album which has some studio overdubs) or any release from 1977.

I might also recommend Dead Set and Reckoning. Both are live albums from a fall 1980 run at the Warfield Theater and Radio City Music Hall in which they played an acoustic set followed by two electric sets. Dead Set is from the electric sets; it has been edited in part so it’s not really an authentic live document, but it sounds decent and I think it’s a good introductory listen. Reckoning is acoustic and is really beautiful.

Finally, two very good studio albums worth checking out are Workingman’s Dead and American Beauty.

Also, note that some vault releases are out of print and you can’t find them for sale for reasonable prices (especially the Dick’s Picks). But you can find many of them on Spotify.

I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with the foregoing - it's just my recommendation. Happy listening.






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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jul 14, 2013 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

one after another, of course!!

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Poster: Bigriver Date: Jul 15, 2013 9:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

Wow, what a question! What is the way to Tiperrary and how do I find enlightenment on the way? My personal bias: listen to the Fillmore West box set from 1969. Every note. This is the big bang supernova explosion that everything prior had led up to and which still continues to radiate out into the universe. 70-71 was great, 72 was a peak, 73-74 was an evolution, 76 was realignment, and 77 -- well 77 was the amalgamation of everything, sublime and trippy. 78 was 77 redux. Then jump to spring of 1990 and work your way back to 1980. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jul 15, 2013 5:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

This is really a very personal choice, dependent on your interest, stamina and means.

Listening to entire shows is truly the best way to experience the GD. But others will attest - that listening to an entire year or period of shows in order can really test your mettle. Listening in order has never worked for me. My personal recommendation is to pursue the alleyways of your interest - pick and choose from various eras for a while, or listen for differences in a favorite piece from various shows and eras (similar to the recent China/Rider discussion, evolution etc). Just gotta poke around! This will help maintain your interest and lead to other alleyways. Also, if you haven't listened to anything from a particular year or era, plunge into a few shows just to test the water. You'll find hidden gems all through the 80s, and some would argue that 92 was a good year, for example.

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Poster: ~Decolores to you~ Date: Jul 15, 2013 8:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

Start here at the Archive - You can just start from the beginning! Sort by concert date, taste the early sounds, listen to a show and see where you go!

Another option, I also like to do a "this day in history" show. See where they were playing on the day you can listen.

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Poster: php111 Date: Jul 15, 2013 6:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

Alright, I see. So it's not and won't be a good recommendation to listen to DP vol 1-36, then all of Road Trips, and then Dave's Picks? If not, then I'm not sure exactly what era to listen, what show and/or album.

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Poster: snoori Date: Jul 15, 2013 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

I've taken a DP to work every day for the last two weeks and listened to them in the order they were released. As someone who listens to the Dead a lot, I think it's a useful exercise for two reasons. Firstly it bestirs me from my comfort zones ('69, '72, etc. etc.)and makes me check out a different period from timr to time. And secondly (as I reminded myself) I didn't buy them to collect and look at.

I would recommend you try working through them and when you find shows you like come back to the Archive and stream some others from the same period.

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Poster: kodiak1221 Date: Jul 15, 2013 12:30pm
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I think starting in 1977 and working backward is also a nice way. To me that's Terrapin and that era is their zenith, Jerry's guitar tone and style was perfection!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 17, 2013 5:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

As far as really getting it, it was Live Dead and Skull and Roses ( especially Skull and Roses to be honest ) that turned me on to what made the Dead so special. From there it was a matter of getting any live show I could get my hands on which at that time there were no Dicks Picks, only Live Dead,Skull and Roses, E72,SYF, and Dead Set and Reckoning as far as live albums. And the tapes you'd get were hit or miss on the quality, often times high gen hissy tapes but I treasured each one. For me I was lucky enough to meet a cool cat who had a ton of great tapes from the entire spectrum who lent me his stash to record. Personally unlike a lot of people I like variety and I can find something great in every era, I'd really get burned out if I only listened to one year or era. That said I still consider 71-77 to be the pinnacle and peak of the band.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jul 15, 2013 7:23am
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Point of information: None of these series are in particular order - they are hand-selected by Dick, Dave, Rhino et al. Some of them are the absolute cream, and some are ordinary.

What has been your listening experience so far? what has really jazzed you? what made you "get on the bus"? This is your point of entry, so to speak, and you can measure other listening experience based on that point. It's not my intent to direct you to only one era. If you've perused this site at all, you know that there are proponents of most eras and a wide variety of shows. Put it this way: I know what I like to listen to, but the path for you is for your steps alone.

And, since I do recommend entire shows, I'd also recommend the major commercial releases. No Deadhead can be without American Beauty, WD, Live/Dead, and others.

edit - just FYI: http://deaddisc.com/GDFD_Grateful_Dead.htm

This post was modified by unclejohn52 on 2013-07-15 14:23:01

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Poster: php111 Date: Jul 15, 2013 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

If they are not in order then what order would you recommend to listen based on this discography? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead_discography

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Jul 18, 2013 8:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

Ithink that would be a very very taxing way to get your listening on.I'm sure some will suggest TDIH and just try that or a You Tube show from differing years.Be prepared not every show is a winner and some are down right awful but for the most part you should be entertained for quite some time.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Jul 15, 2013 3:10pm
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stoned...

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Poster: craven714 Date: Jul 15, 2013 11:02am
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start in 1995 and work your way back to 1965, then take a
shower

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Poster: php111 Date: Jul 15, 2013 11:10am
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Haha very funny.

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Poster: capsgd Date: Jul 14, 2013 6:29pm
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chronologically...and/or 72'-82'is the 'core'

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Poster: php111 Date: Jul 14, 2013 6:34pm
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I'm sorry but I'm not sure if I follow what you are saying. Are you saying listen in order from 72'-82'?

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 14, 2013 6:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any particular way to listen to the Dead discography?

Begin at track # 33. Do not stop until it's over > http://archive.org/details/gd_nrps70-06-24.aud.pcrp5.23062.sbeok.flacf

Then you can start.

>http://archive.org/details/gd67-03-18.sbd.fink.10282.sbeok.shnf

>http://archive.org/details/gd1968-01-20.sbd.miller.97340.sbeok.flac16

>http://archive.org/details/gd1968-10-12.sbd.miller.86759.sbeok.flac16

Forget that other approach. You'll get back to it later.

This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2013-07-15 01:51:15

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Poster: mush72 Date: Jul 15, 2013 10:53am
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I have a few friends that are SBD-snobs. I've tried relentlessly to get them to listen to Track 33 from the above show, with little success. I looked just to confirm, but had a feeling it was the NFA. In you're not bowled over at 10-15 seconds...well, I don't know what to think.

But if the NFA isn't enough, the segue into Easy Wind is off the hook! I think I just found my afternoon show to listen to. Thanks M6V8.

By the way, my wife used the basis of your Archive Username as a theme for a message she delivered at church a few weeks back.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 15, 2013 1:09pm
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>the segue into Easy Wind is off the hook!

I like AR's "Pigedelic".